Diodes are electronic components that allow current to pass one direction and one direction only. It will be mentioned who the Diodes are and why they should all be fired. From a cannon. Into the sun.
Oh. And Ethan easily wrote the majority of what gets said, so you better fucking thank him this time. I don’t want to be the only one that treats him like a human being for the 3rd time in a row.
Starts with: Extrodinary Evidence requires Extrodinary Claims on 4.30.2010 >
From Ethan:
I’m not going to change it because it does sound kinda funny. And I’m putting that in the title to basically show my stance on the subject right away. I’m scientifically conservative not because I’m a douche (I am, but that’s unrelated to this) but because if it can’t be shown conclusively, then it’s not true. Bigfoot doesn’t exist simply because none have ever been captured. [EJH Edit: Also anyone who believes in Bigfoot are poor and lazy to put up a ton of cameras all over the forest.] Sure a lot of people have seen it, but then again a lot of people have seen string theory but that hasn’t been proven true… yet. (Sorry, I had to get in my daily potshots at String Theory. I hope it’s true, but history suggests that String Theory is still 50 years in the future, just like Fusion. Sorry, did it again. I’m going to stop now.)
You know I haven’t watched Steven Hawkings show yet, but at least it’s better than watching any other channel. In fact, I’ve learned a lot from watching those shows because I actively watch them, asking questions and playing a detective game as I play. It’s like watching Mythbusters, or as I like to call it, “Blues Clues for Physicists.”
From Elliot:
I agree with you about the conservative scientific views, but I enjoy the really shitty pseudo-science because they give me a reason to shout at the TV. I’d punch the idiots who are behind the Ancient Aliens series. Craig Ferguson is right about Mythbusters. Explosions are cool. They aren’t real science, but they make a good show about it. If you want to talk really bad science to the point of wanting to strangle someone, my dad is good at that. I think it is the weird hippy drugs.
From Ethan:
And I don’t need to talk to your dad to get riled up on stupid science discusions, I can talk to my family, mostly my moms side. My dad is not a fundamentalist, but he’s also not not a fundamentalist, if that doesn’t make any sense. He doesn’t believe in evolution, but he’s not as moronic as a fundamentalists (though that second part is debatable). My mom and her family are pretty much the same way, but half of them are Mormon. Then you have me; I have a cousin, an aunt, and my sister all with degrees in Kinesiology (though with different titles, they all do them same thing), which are scientists of the family if you don’t count me. Nobody understands me, I’m like either the black sheep or the cute little statue you parade around when you need something to show off. And then I see a bunch of stupid things my parents do, little things that tick me off, which bothers me on a good day. Then I turn around and witness myself doing the same things!
I am a devout empiricist, but sometimes I have to lament that nativism is true since I do the same stupid shit they do! (sorry about the sudden disent into philosophy) Like today my mom goes with me to borders, and I go get the book that I mention in #1 ($16), and 40% off is great. But then my mom wants to get Avatar, normally $30, but it’s on sale for $20 and a 40% coupon will do more for her, so I hand it over to her. She goes up to the counter, rings it up, and finds out that she can use either the coupon or the discount, which is 50 cents cheaper to use the coupon. So what does she do? She uses the coupon! She saves herself 50 cents and I pay full price. The sad thing is, as I walk out the store, I realize that I could have done the exact same thing. I would like to think I wouldn’t, but even down to the way I say things I am similar enough to my family it drives me nuts. I am debating registering as Democrat just to try and be different. I also got a real science degree; everyone else is business or no degree.
There’s a whole reason for this that I should explain, but I’ll do it later since it’s related to the Ancient Astronaut theorists and why they are morons (though they do have one good points; science is not based off of consensus, it’s based off what is true. If it was based off of consensus then the words Quantum and Mechanics would NEVER have been put together). I’ll just use one line; people need to think. When I started taking a bite of my food and asked myself “does this need salt?” my IQ jumped 10 points. Too many people are on autopilot. Maybe that’s why I want the world to end; we’re not any smarter than those that lived in Ancient Rome, they were; if they didn’t think about survival they would die. Today, if you are stuck on autopilot we give you a god damn reality show called “Pretty Wild”! Fuckin hell.
From Elliot:
I totally feel you about science by consensus. I got into a discussion about gemstones being made of metal. Chemically speaking, a number of the gemstones are Aluminium Oxide (or some Al compound) with other elements, most of them being metallic, giving the different colors and properties. Most of the others agreed I was wrong, using pearls as proof. Aren’t pearls traditionally made of Calcium? Frak.
From Ethan:
For someone who studied religion at Cal Poly and would have double majored in it, I really am errked by religion itself. OK, not religion, but people. Here is my philosophy in a nutshell;
There are three types of people in the world.
Group one makes up about 75% of the world (at least I am hoping it does), and they are just plain stupid and don’t know it. These are the people that believe in conspiracies, alien astronauts, and other bullshit. They may have something to offer, but for the most part are just a waste of resources. They are so stupid, they are to stupid to know it, making them dangerous if they have the ability to convince people they are not.
Group 2 makes up about 25% of the world (I hope, or god help us all if group one is larger than I predict), and they are also stupid, but have the special ability to know they are stupid. This gives them a major advantage over group one since they now know their limitations and can try to pull their asses out of their head.
Now there are a few things to note;
1) This is based off of me being an empiricist (we know nothing at birth and learn everything through relevant sense experience over time). This also means that you are free to move in and out of group 1 and 2.
2) This has nothing to do with college education. Just because you have a degree in something doesn’t mean you know anything about anything. Take for example the one physicist the truther movement has found; he’s a disgraced physics professor from BYU for two reasons; 1) he used class time to lecture about the 9/11 conspiracy, and 2) he took too much time off to try and prove the Mormon bible through archeology. He also claimed that Livermore National Labs had found super thermite by accident during an experiment, and when asked about it Livermore said “we have no idea what you are talking about.”
3) IQ doesn’t mean a thing. Marilyn vos Savant has the highest IQ on record, and if you look up the site http://www.jal.cc.il.us/~mikolajsawicki/bad_physics.htm you’ll find that she is a favorite target for saying some of the dumbest shit ever; a bullet, according to her, has an inertial force pushing it forward, and a gravity force pulling it down. [EJH Edit: Science content: There is no force pushing it forward since it is not accelerating forward. The only horizontal force would be a quadratic friction due the speed of the bullet.]
4) Age means shit, it’s all about experience. You can be 80 years old and dumber than shit simply because you never had the relavent sense experiences to learn something. You can also be 10 years old and no a ton if you bothered to learn it.
Now if you’re doing the math along with me you’ll notice that 75+25=100. Trust me, that’s not a typo; Group 3 is less than 1% of the population, and these are true geniuses. These are guys that change the world through brain power or massive force of will. These aren’t hippies, these are like Gauss, Newton, Avogadro, Einstein, guys that make us look like drooling idiots. If we’re lucky then we get to have one in our generation. The thing is humanity used a bunch of them to come up with Quantum Mechanics that we’re going to be group three defecient for a few generations, meaning the amateurs have taken over (hence wikipedia).
My dad doesn’t believe in evolution, but he does believe in pollution, and so does go for all those green technologies and wants everything a climate change person argues we should do. Even though he’s wrong, I can’t fault him I guess.
My mom on the other hand tries to point out that 600 scientist signed a letter saying they don’t believe in climate change. I would love to find them, since the only debate I know of from any scientific journal is of the details, not that it is or is not going to happen. I’ve taken to reading Fox News before her to point out how she has quoted things wrong.
Then comes the most annoying thing they do; “I’m [blank] years old and you’re only 25, you have a lot of learn.” The ironic part about this; the first time it was used was when my mom aruged that inertia and momentum were the same thing.
[EJH Edit: No. Just no. Inertia and momentum are not the same.]
From Elliot:
To your comments on IQ: I can’t agree more. Give an average person from a city and an average aborigine an IQ test and the city person would probably score higher. But that means shit because neither would be able to recreate the others way of life exactly, but the case of Ishi proves that the aborigine would do better in our world than vice versa. (Ishi was the last Native American that was ‘wild.’ After he was taken in, he quickly adapted to modern life and was able to behave like the people around him while they failed to mimic his behaviors and technologies. They then screwed him in the afterlife, but that is a completely different tale.)
Lol about your counter Fox News work. I can’t stand them. My mom can’t stand them. My stepdad used to only watch them. I got my mom watching other news networks, and my stepdad started watching them too. I actually have to talk them down from taking viewpoints presented on MSNBC now! At least they don’t trust Fox anymore.
As to your > 1%, maybe the super geniuses are still around but have moved to other fields. We had Mozart and Beethoven for a time. They were genius. Maybe our current geniuses are in non-scientific fields but in other arts. Example: Danny Pudi. Another example: Cliff Bleszinski. … Okay. That last example doesn’t exactly work, but he did make a game where you have a gun with a frakking chainsaw! Or maybe they are artistic savants and can only communicate via an artistic media, which would explain Hideo Kojima. The guy says retarded things when he opens his mouth but makes beautiful games. And don’t tell me we don’t have and geniuses working in science or I’ll send you that LHC pic that clearly shows Gordon Freeman IRL.
The 75% are the ones that watch Mythbusters and say ‘Cool! Explosions!’ The 25% are the ones that write the emails complaining to the Mythbusters that they did something wrong. The > 1% are listening to NPR while the rest are watching Mythbusters.
My version of ‘I’m x and you’re only 26 (in my case)’ is ‘When I was your age, I was doing _____ .’ By now, my dad was married divorced and a homeowner. (That last one he admits was a lot of luck and for a small house, but still a homeowner.) I sucks when comparing to all of the nothing I have done.
In a somewhat related note: I have defined the Bice-Hayter Law to be: Muons don’t exist. Few physical laws are as simple yet perfect as that one. The only other one is Wheaton’s Law: Don’t be a dick.
[EJH Edit: Science content: Yeah. Muons. Not real. People think they are, but I never saw one. Nope. Looked for a whole week. It was the least scintillating experiment we ever did.]
[EJH Edit edit: That was a joke about a scintillation detector, you Diodes!]
From Ethan:
I realized why I don’t like the show so much, and not because the guys are morons at best; it’s because of a very heavy bias in one direction. Guess what the direction is. If you guess to the scientist (which you probably did… smart ass) you’re wrong. The show gives about 5 minutes of an hour program (let’s say 45 minutes total) to counterpoints against the theorists. Then, after the counterpoints are given, the theorists get to counter the counterpoints. Not only do the theorists get to counter the counterpoints, but the scientists also don’t get to elaborate very much on their points, instead it’s more like “Well, that’s not what the rest of us think,” before the theorists get to go off more.
But there’s another reason why I hate the theory so much; it claims that all human achievements since forever mean diddly. Since we can’t build the pyramids now obviously the Egyptians couldn’t have. But to say that aliens do that has to overlook a lot of physical evidence that in fact the Eqyptians did. Not only that, but to say that “well it’s hard” is a giant cop out. Maybe it is hard, and that’s the point. Maybe it being so hard is why only a few exist, and several don’t exist since they were made with serious design flaws. There is one Stonehenge and only one Stonehenge, which suggests that maybe, just maybe, the thing, while important, wasn’t easy to construct.
Then today they started talking about the pharaoh Akhenaten (the guy who converted Egypt for many gods to one god and pissed everyone off). He had this elongated head, which according to the theorists is clear evidence he was part alien, and he converted the country to a single god to cover up his alien ancestry. A real scientist gets on their for about a minute and states “He could have had a real birth defect that does exist which causes his head to elongate.” Well they actually found the guy’s tomb, and he does in fact have an elongated head, but not only does he have it, but his son, Tutankhamen, had it too. So what does the narrator say next… “Is this proof that Akhenaten was part alien?” No, it’s proof that is was a genetic defect passed onto his son due to lots and lots of genetic inbreeding among the Egyptians. Until someone can show that strange genetic marker that is clearly not human he has a genetic defect.
But here’s the part that really gets me; now they are going to claim that human DNA has been manipulated by aliens. What does this do? It now makes it impossible for anyone to argue with them. If they claim that someone was an alien, then you and I, have a working brain between us, decide to check the DNA to see if anything is not human about it, when we — surprise surprise — don’t find it, they can say “well it was manipulated by aliens, therefore we won’t find it.” They can also claim that our DNA is part alien, therefore we will never find it.
I get to point out a problem with this theory, and I’m trying to not start another paragraph with a conjunction; chimpanzees and humans can’t mate. We can’t mate because we don’t have the same number of chromosomes. In fact, a lot of creatures on Earth can’t produce offspring for that simple fact. Sure several creatures can (horses and donkies), but they are not viable offspring. And that’s with creatures on the same planet! You would either have to assume that aliens came to this planet and manipulated the whole of the Homo Erectus to create Sapiens, and make it so that we can get it on Barry White Style, or that two speices from two completely different solar systems with a different biology and genetic ancestry can have wild freaky alien sex.
Then they go ahead and state that cranial manipulation (where you get that really freaky looking head) is our way of trying to look like aliens. OK, let’s look at that for a second. It does expalin why cranial manipulation is so prevalent across the world; after all it is done in Africa, Nepal, and Peru (modern day areas btw). We are trying to manipulate ourselves to look like Greys. However, there is a huge problem; that theory only accounts for cranial manipulation. It does not account for tattoos, penis manipulation/mutilation, vaginal manipulation/mutilation, piercing, elongating of the neck, feet binding, intentional scarring, you get the picture. They have one piece of evidence that correlates for them circumstantially, so they ignore the physical evidence.
The thing that got me the most though was when they brought up the Greek gods. According to the theorists, they point out how celestial the gods are, and how they keep descending down to the Earth and then rise back up to the heavens. You should be able to tell exactly what they are doing wrong here; they are deliberately over looking the fact that, according to the Greeks themselves, the gods lived in Mount Olympus, an actual mountain in Greece. Not only that but they also ignore the creation stories of the Greeks, which states that the gods where the children and Geia and Chronos… wait… I got to go pick up Edith Hamilton’s Mythology book again because my memory of that story is hazy, BUT I do remember with 100% certainty (fuck you Heisenberg) that there is nothing to indicate the gods being aliens.
What does the title [Chinese Dragons like to jump sharks] refer to? Well it gets better; they claim that one of the first emperors [EJH Edit: Possibly Qin Shi Huang or the Yellow Emperor?] of China was an alien, who descended down on a dragon, which they reinterpret to be a rocket ship. The reason for this is that dragons are associated with breathing fire, and if you look at modern day rocket ships there is fire blowing out the rear end like it finished digesting a burrito. Here’s the trouble; 1) a lot of what they claim is that “just because we can’t do it now doesn’t mean it can’t be done,” which the guy with the heavy tan lines, crazy hair, and slight lisp claims “is the height of human ignorance” but then use modern technology whenever it is convienent. If you had a super electric engine would you use a rocket? I wouldn’t. In fact, if you had a super electric engine to travel the stars with, why would you use an explosive rocket? So they use only what is convenient for them. 2) Sometimes when you say something jumps the shark, it literally jumps a fucking shark. They claim that the dragon is really a UFO, but I say it’s still a dragon. I say this because when we say “That 70s Show” jumped the shark, we say it started to go downhill. But when we say “Happy Days” jumped the shark, we mean that Fonsie literally jumped a shark. [EJH Edit: Best. Episode. Ever.] We mark that as the time when the show went downhill, but Fonsie still JUMPED A FUCKING SHARK. Plus, can Chinese dragons breathe fire? I don’t think they can.
Here’s how they reinterpret dragons; well, they didn’t have the word “rocket ship” so they used the word “dragon”. Well, there’s a problem, they DID have the word rocket since in Ancient China they had — oh my aliens — rockets. So if they saw a giant ship that looked like a rocket, why not just call it a giant firecracker? Yes firecrackers were made in the… something AD, but you can’t tell me that the legend of this guy coming down to China on a dragon, if it was not a dragon at all, never got reinterpreted to “giant firecracker” when the word came up.
Now it could be possible that aliens actually did vist the Earth and did influence certian cultures, like the Dogons and the Zuni Indians. According to the Zuni, aliens did in fact visit them, so I’m not going to argue that, but because the Zuni had them visit doesn’t mean the aliens visited Egypt. And maybe they visited the Dogons. But still there is a problem; the alien theorists also kinda lead the Zuni and the Dogons into stating “yes, aliens visited us.” So I wont call the Zuni morons, I will call the theorists morons.
Basically here are the logical offenses that the alien theorists do;
1) Picking only some evidence and ignoring others.
2) Intentional bias and refusing to acknowledge counter points. Instead of trying to argue their evidence is better, they dismiss counter points and never address them.
3) They base many of their claims off of vague evidence. Many things they point out could be interpreted many ways.
4) They do the same thing Bigfoot proponents do; they say “well look at how many people have seen this, it has to be real.” Well, your eyes are some of the worst photodetectors in the universe (you don’t use them to find muons). [EJH Edit: Told you the don't exist.]
5) A lot of what they claim is not physical evidence, it’s circumstantial. Your joke that muons don’t exist [EJH Edit: because they don't] is more valid since it is based off of a real, physical experiment with hard data to support you. However, even you will admit that something in the experiment caused your results, and that muons do exist do to the mountain of physical evidence to the contrary. [EJH Edit: Shh!! Don't tell people that. It will ruin the joke.]
6) The worst offense; they “Beg the Question.” Begging the Question is a logical boo boo where you assume your conclusion to be true in order to prove your conclusion to be true. It’s like circular logic, but a good way to state it is this little diolouge between you and me;
Ethan: “Fucking alien theorists are being stupid right now.”
Elliot: “How do you know.”
Ethan: “Have you not read the above email? They are stupid.”
They are assuming that all mentioning of gods is really a reference to an alien, rather than looking at those gods as actual gods, and trying to physically show them as aliens. It’s actually not a subtle difference; maybe the Greeks didn’t mean aliens, maybe they really did mean gods, in which case you should show physical proof that they are in fact gods rather than doing textual gymnastics. And trust me, some of those guys should not be doing gymnastics… things that make you go “barf.”
From Elliot:
Arg! The bias on those shows is such BS! I hate them so much! They even find the most sympathetic to the program scientists to ‘refute’ the wild claims. It is not like when they are doing a program on the deep mysteries of the LHC and the point guy is saying ‘we hope to find the Higgs Boson, but we have to see the data first.’ and the counterpoint guy says ‘we probably won’t find the Higgs Boson, but it will be really awesome if we do.’ Even Sagan would counterpoint himself sometimes during Cosmos.
Asiatic dragons are like the dragons from D&D wherein they can breathe all sorts of things. Of course, if you average all of the dragons around the world, everything gets sent out of a dragon’s mouth. Unlike other dragons, Asiatic ones are benevolent more than others. That doesn’t mean they just let you get away occasionally, that means they give you their horde. The ancestor of the Japanese imperial line is the grandson of their chief goddess (she was the sun) who married the daughter of a powerful undersea dragon (a god of the sea). As a present for almost drowning and sexing up his daughter, the dragon gave our hero a number of magic items as well as his magically powered daughter. Next thing you know, the alien people will say that USOs are responsible for Japan and site the ancient Ainu’s development of pottery 2k years before the rest of the planet as proof. (Please don’t argue the pottery thing. I have a stack of books, half western, that support me.) [Not to mention I have posted those parts of my research paper on Japanese archeology on this site.]
A thought about them saying that all of the gods or angels are aliens, they don’t think the other way is possible too. What if it wasn’t an UFO/USS Planet Express Ship that crashed near Roswell? What if it was a drunk archangel? Those people are the diodes of theorists. It is only one way and you can’t go back. Hawking would bet against himself. Einstein, Feynman, Schrodenger, etc would work against their own work, either to fix it or disprove it.
Oh yeah. When you described that one Diode, I knew exactly which one you were talking about. That guy has to be a puppet, but it isn’t a hand up his ass, it is the whole rest of his body up his ass! (Yes, I know that doesn’t work anatomically, but tell me it isn’t true.)
From Ethan:
First off; why do you call them diodes? If I knew why I could be a better… of fuck it. It sounds funny, and some of them look funny stuffed up their own asses. They’re diodes.
As I wrote the “there’s only one Stonehenge” I had a feeling there were going to be others. I know there are a few others made of wood, so they are not Stonehenge but…. well you get the picture. Anyway I think my point still holds; those monuments are pretty rare due to the difficulty of building them. Let’s take a skyscraper, how many exist in SLO? None. Why? Because you a) have no need to put one there and b) it would be really hard to do that and cost more to put it in than you would get out. Why are monuments so rare? For the same reason. Now skyscrapers do exist in LA, New York, Bejing, why? because they a) do need/want them and b) they get something out of them when they put it in there. Looking at all the ancient monuments they happen to be located in – surprise surprise – major population centers/culture centers. Places where it has a use.
It’s like when I said that they talk about the skull manipulation and I brought up all other forms of body manipulation that they are ignoring; well they are ignoring the traditional claim that the monuments just happen to be sitting on major centers of [whatever]. If I have a theory T1, and you have a theory T2, and we both have experimental data D1 through D10, we’re going to settle with the theory that accounts for D1 through D10 and if neither do, then we need to do some work, but the theory that accounts for the most is probably going to be the right theory.
I remember one of them brought up the similarities between the structure of the pyramids in Egypt and the pyramids in Mexico, mostly that they were both pyramids. Whoopidydo! There are pyramids in China that they just happen to ignore. In fact the largest pyramid is in China, and has a massive terracotta army sitting in front of it. Aliens must have done both of them, and they are not terracotta soldiers, but terracotta robots! Here’s what I say; if I take a bucket of sand and dump it on the ground it makes a pyramid like shape. If you look at the mountains, they have a pyramid like shape. Why? Simple; because it’s easy to make that. You don’t have to worry about deep foundations with a pyramid. Plus while they are both pyramids, there are a lot of key differences between the two, namely that the pyramids of Mexico where used for most than just gigantic tombs.
And as you mention Japan I can’t wait for them to mention that. Actually I can’t cause I tried watching tonights episode on aliens giving us DNA. You know what they said? That aliens caused all the mass extinctions to make human life possible on Earth. There’s a problem with the theory, and not that the Diodes are [I'll save you the bother of having to read explitives you and I are both thinking]; if aliens can manipulate genes, make us in their own image, and control extinctions on the planet, then why did it take them HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS? Why not just skip to the end? One of the guys from UFO Hunters was on (he somehow has a PhD in law, so if you need a lawyer, don’t go to him) who explained how aliens could use super heated lasers going into the ocean to create hurricanes. Here’s an idea, instead of using hurricanes, USE A FUCKING ASTEROID! The story ends with me switching the channel to watch Alexander the Great vs. Attila the Hun on Spike’s Deadliest Warrior. Hey, it’s got more science in it. Now I’m seriously considering boycotting the History channel forever until they get rid of the diodes.
This is what Saunders likes to call the Principle of Laziness. OK, he was referring to solving problems in the simplest way possible. I use it more like Occam’s Razor. “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” A French guy said that, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, so they aren’t all bad (before you ask, that’s a quote used in Civ 4). What does it mean? It means if you are an engineer, and are making something, make it as simple as possible. If you find a useless device on your design, get rid of it. So if I can see that the aliens could have saved themselves hundreds of millions of years, there is a serious problem with the diodes way of thinking [or lack of thinking].
We have a fossil record on this planet that goes back continuously for 4 billion years, so we don’t need aliens, we only need the flying spaghetti monster. Next thing you know the diodes are going to join Ahnenerbe.
I just had a terrifying thought; in Kansas, they teach competing theories to evolution. Does this mean we now have to teach the diodes theory? If so I’m moving to Iceland. I’d rather live under a giant fucking active volcano than deal with that shit.
From Elliot:
Oh. I glazed over why I called them Diodes without any clear connection between them and the term. I made a reference to them only looking in one direction and not thinking of looking back at the opposite line of reasoning. Diodes only allow one direction of current to flow. It was a bit of a leap, but the similarities are there.
All of the DNA and gene manipulation talk makes me think Assassins’ Creed. The human race was allegedly built to be slaves of a more ancient race, and we were genetically manipulated to be controlled by the more advance technology of the other race. The Assassins were like hybrids of the ‘gods’ and humans, thus immune to the mind control and the only ones that could keep humans from destroying each other after the other race was wiped out by solar flares or asteroids while protecting us or something. Trust me. If they didn’t shovel that crap in cutscenes, it would have ruined the feeling of running around stabbing people in the head with your hidden blades. .. Or getting Da Vinci to build a gun into the blades.
In Texas, the biologists were able to stop creationists from imposing creationism in biology class. How is that a bad thing? The creationists turned around and attacked astronomy for not having alternate theories against the Big Bang. Astronomy is the new battlefield for the creationists. They make Tea Partiers look sane… relatively speaking. And not the good kind of relativity.
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